Family History Friday - Elisha, son of John. John, son of Elisha?

 

family history Friday

well it seems the most likely candidate to be the father of my third great grandfather john nichols is Elisha Nichols, son of John. Elisha married Nancy Payne, his second wife and had some children. although no one mentions John as a son of the pair, they were married and having children about the time that John was born in 1814. Also location is important because John said he was born in Bedford, VA. and there were only so many Nichols families there in 1814. So that narrows the field a bit.

previously I had thought that John may be the son of Isaac and Rhoda Nichols but they didn't even marry until 1818 so they're out. also, Isaac had a son named Isaac in 1814 from a previous marriage, possibly to a Polly as I have been told, and while this Isaac is probably the same bloodline, Isaac and John could not have the same parents. 

Elisha is the most likely parent of John, and although his brothers had sons named John, they were not my John. also, there's a possibility that maybe Isaac is also descended from Elisha through a son named William? investigating that one, but it's a work in progress (WIP). 

you see, I have a DNA match from Isaac which means that maybe his father Isaac may be descended from Elisha too. I read about Elisha having a son named William and I read about Isaac being descended from a William d nichols, so maybe William was the father of Isaac and the son of Elisha?  well, gang it looks like we have a mystery on our hands. 

you find a lot of mysteries in family history, maybe they should bring back Scooby Doo to do a genealogy cartoon? Nah!  

Also, I have several DNA matches through Elisha, where I had none through previous theories.

Well, I have homework to do. keep climbing the trees and seeking the dead people. 

Nick, third great Grandson of John. 

Grandson of Sam. 

Family Historian. 

Thomas Lawrence 3gg

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11/M Thomas LAWRENCE *31201

Birth: 11 Nov 1824 Montgomery Co., Virginia
Census: 1 Jun 1850 District 41, Montgomery Co., Virginia (constable)
Marriage: __ ___ ____ Susan F. OBRYAN (b. 1 Jun 1821, d. 1 Mar 1890)
Daughter: __ ___ 1852 Rosa Jane LAWRENCE; Floyd Co., Virginia
Daughter: __ ___ 1853 Rhoda Ellen LAWRENCE; Floyd Co., Virginia
Son: 12 Jul 1854 William Paris LAWRENCE; Floyd Co., Virginia **
Son: __ ___ 1856 Henry Andrew LAWRENCE; Floyd Co., Virginia
Son: __ ___ 1857 Alfred LAWRENCE; Floyd Co., Virginia
Daughter: __ ___ 1859 Emmaline LAWRENCE; Floyd Co., Virginia
Census: 1 Jun 1860 Floyd Co., Virginia (farmer $1600 $603)
Son: __ ___ ____ Eddie LAWRENCE; Floyd Co., Virginia
Daughter: __ ___ 1867 Loula LAWRENCE; Floyd Co., Virginia
Census: 1 Jun 1870 Jacksonville Twp, Floyd Co., Virginia (farmer $1400 $310)
Census: 1 Jun 1880 Jacksonville Twp, Floyd Co., Virginia (farmer)
Death: 26 May 1897 Virginia

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Thomas Lawrence married Susan Frances OBryan. They were my 3rd great grandparents. Thomas was the son of John P Lawrence III and Nancy Peden. 

http://www.lawrence-ons.org/john21.html

John Lawrence, the Elder, the Minute Man, and the Patriot

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My 6th great grandfather, John, the Elder, Lawrence, of Dutchess County, New York, was a preacher, a pastor, a minute man, and a patriot. He was born about about 1721 in Connecticut. He became the pastor of a Baptist church in Dutchess, New York about 1770. 

He married Lavinah Ormsby in 1759

*Early Connecticut Marriages

NameJonathan LawrenceGenderMale Spouse's NameZerviah Ormsby Spouse GenderFemale Marriage Date29 Aug 1759Marriage PlaceNorwich-Lisbon, New London

It is likely that the name Lavinah may look a bit like Zerviah in cursive and was probably misread as such. 

If this record is correct, he may have had another wife before her, as it is believed that he had a child named Rebecca in 1750 who married in 1769 at about the age of 19. The chances are she was probably not ten. 

Among his other children is my ancestor John Lawrence II who was born about 1760 in New York. While Lavinah may not have been the first wife of John Lawrence, she is probably the mother of John II. 

John II married Elizabeth and had three known children. Zelphia, Elizabeth, and John III.  

John P. Lawrence III married Nancy Peden about 1806. They were my fourth great grandparents.

http://www.lawrence-ons.org/john21.html 

sources matter

gtft

 Sadly, even when you find a source for an ancestor, someone else will come along and try to change proven facts on their profile, or a website that published important info on a family tree will vanish from the net, because someone did not pay the bill. 

so much has been lost over the past few years that used to be there, and I worry when I am gone will my findings be lost forever? probably. that's why family historians follow each other's works and look for proof of unproven points. any proof found should not be ignored or deleted just because you cannot see the source, but any source you find should be published in a place where it won't be lost later. 

website domains are dependent on finances. if you die or can't pay the bill on time, the domain and all the info in it could be lost to time. 

always note the sources in a safe place and always save the info where it cant be lost.  

most dot coms will disappear some day. a blog is more reliable, but if you attach your blog to a dot com, don't keep it's true address a secret. 

Nick 

raynichols.blogspot.com 

Cousin of Ogden Nash

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I am a distant cousin of Ogden Nash. We are both descendants of Estienne Chenault, the immigrant and Huguenot. 

And yes we are all cousins. Science says we are all descendants of Mitochondrial Eve. 

Ogden Nash is a maternal cousin. my fifth cousin twice removed. 5c2r-  

https://www.geni.com/people/Ogden-Nash/6000000008220105828

Questions and Ancestors - SOM

 September Site of the Month 

My genealogy blog was mentioned in the Geneabloggers blog and was created as a 52 ancestors in 52 weeks blog. in it, I researched over 52 ancestors and wrote of my findings. one of my best blogs. focused and themed. which are good qualities for a blog. by doing just one theme I was better able to focus on the project. This blog will continue it's work now so that I may continue my research without the complications of having separate blogs to do so. all q and a posts will be labeled accordingly. 

www.questionsandancestors.blogspot.com  

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*also, it's fun giving awards and getting them is even better so it's a win win scenario. and I now have award winning blogs. always wanted those. yay me. 

Thomas Rogers: Mayflower Family

Brice and Jane: Book of the Month

Chris and Nancy: Book of the Month

JAMES AND PEGGY: Family History Friday

My new ebook at amazon about my fourth great grandparents, James G Wright and Peggy Young...